00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:50.250 Mark Reynolds: Welcome, welcome to the December citizens climate lobby call my name is mark Rentals and a member of the CCL staff and i'm happy to be hosting today's call. 328 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:57.210 Mark Reynolds: I want to thank everybody who's been participating our year end appeal and everything you've been doing to encourage other people to participate in our year end appeal. 329 00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:11.220 Mark Reynolds: You know, we had a goal of raising $300,000 on giving Tuesday and we raised over $400,000 where we were as of early this morning is at 720 $8,216 towards our goal of $1.5 million. 330 00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:19.770 Mark Reynolds: By the end of the year, so, if you would continue to encourage people to donate we would really, really appreciate that we're about halfway there and so let's keep going. 331 00:42:20.490 --> 00:42:32.790 Mark Reynolds: what's gonna happen today well in just a couple minutes i'll be introducing our guest speaker South central who presented at the COP 26 event in Glasgow after that we're going to get a legislative update from our. 332 00:42:33.900 --> 00:42:39.720 Mark Reynolds: Vice President governor fares Dr Danny Richter then we'll go over what we're doing this month, some of the things that happened. 333 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:47.640 Mark Reynolds: Since last month's call and which was actually November Conference, and then a little bit about what will be happening in 2022. 334 00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:53.490 Mark Reynolds: One talk about Glasgow for just a second because we had 15 badges per week, which is the most badges we've ever had. 335 00:42:53.760 --> 00:43:02.190 Mark Reynolds: And we had a total of 23 delegates, which means that CCL had more of a presence in Glasgow than about 30% of the countries around the world. 336 00:43:02.580 --> 00:43:08.760 Mark Reynolds: There were six of our team Members who were actually representing their own country, and two of them who were negotiating on behalf of their country. 337 00:43:09.150 --> 00:43:13.890 Mark Reynolds: We have 310 contacts with leaders that we tracked over the course of the two weeks. 338 00:43:14.160 --> 00:43:21.030 Mark Reynolds: And one of the things that we do is we have something called the people's pavilion and it's really about making the whole court process more transparent. 339 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:26.250 Mark Reynolds: And so we were streaming three to 10 events, a day to make sure that people who couldn't actually come to Glasgow. 340 00:43:26.550 --> 00:43:35.310 Mark Reynolds: were involved in the in the meetings, and we also had meetings with 11 ministers or Heads of States or their delegates, so it was a big thing for us. 341 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:46.590 Mark Reynolds: that's what we're really excited that today we have a SATA central with us, this is the fifth time she's presented and Bennett COP is the first time she presented to world leaders and we'll ask her about that in just a moment. 342 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:53.190 Mark Reynolds: But she's also a we also want to get an impression of what does she take away from the COP 26 progress. 343 00:43:53.490 --> 00:44:01.620 Mark Reynolds: But she's also a board member of founding board member of citizens climate international so we actually started a third organization this year to support our work around the world. 344 00:44:01.980 --> 00:44:11.340 Mark Reynolds: And that's because of this point we have 141 chapters in 76 countries and we did an organization that was just dedicated to supporting that effort, as well as our. 345 00:44:12.510 --> 00:44:18.030 Mark Reynolds: Efforts in the US and and the UN effort also it's not just is working on her. 346 00:44:18.510 --> 00:44:29.280 Mark Reynolds: PhD on the cryosphere, and so we definitely want to hear a little bit about how her work relates to what we're doing here so it's artists, first of all welcome so glad that you can join us and. 347 00:44:29.790 --> 00:44:34.920 Mark Reynolds: tell us a little bit about what it was like presenting at the UN and who you're talking to and what you were talking about. 348 00:44:35.550 --> 00:44:40.890 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Absolutely Thank you so much it's an honor to be here with you guys thanks for the invite. 349 00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:50.640 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So many things Oh, my goodness um it was such an awesome experience and it's always great to be a part of. 350 00:44:51.270 --> 00:45:02.340 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: The delegation of CCI like bringing Members like from all over the world, and then also we have our you know, like our five areas that we're concentrating in. 351 00:45:03.090 --> 00:45:20.640 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And I work alone in the public participation, so as part of that I am in the coordination team of the UN, education, communication outreach and stakeholder informal group, so what this group is. 352 00:45:21.750 --> 00:45:27.450 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Focusing in it's about you know, bringing something that's called the action for climate empowerment. 353 00:45:29.160 --> 00:45:44.010 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Agenda to life, and these actually is very important to create like the governance and the transparency that we actually need to make like the Paris Agreement goals feasible, so I was invited you know. 354 00:45:44.670 --> 00:45:59.370 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: From from my group they nominate me to be like the speaker in at the UN after policy, and I was like okay like no problem, like I created a speech and, of course, one of my goals is to bring visibility and. 355 00:46:00.180 --> 00:46:14.490 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: priority to the vulnerable, so I couldn't miss the opportunity to talk about where I come from, I was born and raised in Puerto Rico and we are like our code, we are our mountains, where our rivers and our people so. 356 00:46:15.870 --> 00:46:26.460 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: I took the opportunity to take the floor, you know because, like since like we have a colonial status with the US, our priorities are not represented in the US climate plan so. 357 00:46:27.150 --> 00:46:45.600 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: I got my speech ready and went into the room and there was lying, so this is like the planner is not like a normal room so i've been in rooms and talk before, but this is the plenary, so this is where like the world leaders talk so normally you will go and find the spot, where is. 358 00:46:46.710 --> 00:46:52.830 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: The label of your organization I couldn't find it so I go in like to the front, I was like you know, like where it is. 359 00:46:53.250 --> 00:47:04.620 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And they're like oh no, you will see, like in from here, and like if you have seen any of those pictures of the UN triple C plan earnings, it has tables in each one of the posts has like a microphone. 360 00:47:05.220 --> 00:47:14.100 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So I was like Okay, and then they lead me to some tears that are in front of all those tables and there were. 361 00:47:14.610 --> 00:47:26.400 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: No microphone so I was like you know, like how am I supposed to talk and they're like well you know, like don't worry about that we will escort you to the stage, so I didn't know that I was going to be talking. 362 00:47:27.060 --> 00:47:46.920 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: On the stage in front of worldliness so it was like I like okay all right, so it was an awesome experience to be talking about, like so many inspiring leaders and you phone yeah it was great it was very I was super grateful for the trust and. 363 00:47:48.390 --> 00:47:58.650 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And the space to actually bring some light into Puerto Rico which is normally not talking to spaces so yeah it was an amazing experience right. 364 00:47:58.740 --> 00:48:11.460 Mark Reynolds: And, and so you know, mostly the press talks about what didn't happen there and that you know the agreements aren't binding and stuff but you've been there and you've been there, the last five times, so what were your takeaways coming from this meeting. 365 00:48:12.180 --> 00:48:16.530 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: yeah so we have a tough one here when it comes to anything cuz. 366 00:48:17.610 --> 00:48:31.500 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: We set out, you know, like yeah I look sharp month select in bed that slogan was Paris promise Glasgow must deliver, so I think the question is like the glass I would deliver. 367 00:48:33.390 --> 00:48:45.870 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So it's like half and half um I think it's fair to say that cup 26 didn't come without challenges, a global pandemic, you know, and I think you know it's um. 368 00:48:46.740 --> 00:48:56.730 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: It has been categorized like the most inequitable and inaccessible COP so actually participation was really a challenge there even. 369 00:48:57.120 --> 00:49:12.330 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Even being there and having a badger it was a challenge to get into rooms so that's something that we need to keep in mind and that kind of translated into some of the processes and some of the things that we did not see happen, but despite all of that. 370 00:49:14.100 --> 00:49:24.330 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: I think that one of the key takeaways from optimistic is that climate change needs to be rooted in the sub national and communities, because our superpower our people. 371 00:49:24.780 --> 00:49:37.800 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So we know our leaders were unfortunately not in crisis mode, as we need them to be, and there was resistance, but Glasgow did set a path to for us to follow up. 372 00:49:39.030 --> 00:49:48.060 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And we have committed, we have new commitments on the patient finance by 2025 we also have the Article six. 373 00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:59.760 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: which talks about you know, like all the carbon markets, and it has improved transparency and also we need, we have a mandate to create kind of. 374 00:50:00.630 --> 00:50:21.510 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: A word program to operationalize the global goal and adaptation and there's also a very important topic for civil society, this year, which was lost in damage and this works with all those impacts that are far too wide in coming on like very quickly than. 375 00:50:22.650 --> 00:50:24.630 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: The most vulnerable cannot adapt to. 376 00:50:25.710 --> 00:50:44.550 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So there are some things we're not near like where we want to be button, we have implemented, you know, like or adopted de Santiago net work which provides assistance to those countries to have access to capacity building, etc, so there are some programs and. 377 00:50:45.660 --> 00:50:58.950 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Additionally, which is something that I think was very important, like to see parties and countries that were like reiterating keeping the 1.5 goal within reach, and for that we have. 378 00:50:59.640 --> 00:51:08.970 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: or parties have agreed to revisit and enhance their 2030 targets by 2022 so normally they wouldn't have to revisit the targets. 379 00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:21.660 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: until five years so 2025 but they say like you know, we need to ramp up our ambition and some of the things that i've been working with on action for Clement empowerment as. 380 00:51:22.530 --> 00:51:32.700 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: We did good the Glasgow work route we're program which implements like that part of the agenda, so we have work to do in the next year. 381 00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:37.740 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And we can you know, like Glasgow said the past you like, where we need to be. 382 00:51:38.700 --> 00:51:52.950 Mark Reynolds: Right, so I think one of the things that's really impressed me with CCS work is its commitment to get citizens involved throughout the world, so you know we've seen how that can work in the US, because that's where most of us worked on a lot in Canada, but. 383 00:51:54.270 --> 00:52:00.480 Mark Reynolds: CCI is really committed that you know, every country will have citizens involved in this process and I think that's really, really impressive. 384 00:52:01.170 --> 00:52:16.050 Mark Reynolds: you're also a founding board member of this organization that does work on the UN level but also you've got 141 chapters around the world and 76 countries and you're the regional coordinator for Latin America just tell us a little bit about how that's going and how you see it going. 385 00:52:16.980 --> 00:52:27.030 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: yeah so it's super important, I think, like it's like an extension of the work that has been done, like in the US, I think some of the strength. 386 00:52:27.540 --> 00:52:38.940 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: That citizens climate lobby brings to the table is actually empowering the citizens or everyday people to create relationships with their policymakers and being able to. 387 00:52:39.330 --> 00:52:59.820 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: advocate for better solutions on climate change so like taking that to another level, and being able to give people the tools to really bring this down and contextualizing in their own national ways, etc, I think it's super important and then providing the access to people. 388 00:53:00.900 --> 00:53:08.430 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Being able to know what's happening at the international level at the regional level, I think, create the synergies that we really need. 389 00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:15.870 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: to advance climate action, like, for example, if we if we're talking about cup 26. 390 00:53:16.650 --> 00:53:27.300 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Most of what happens there even leaders from agency CDs won't be knowing what's going on, you know they won't know what is their countries position. 391 00:53:28.230 --> 00:53:41.160 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Neither would citizens, so how can we expect like that commitments to be you know, like held accountable and even support it, you know, because we have capacity within. 392 00:53:41.490 --> 00:53:50.760 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Our lives like different levels of government So what we need to be doing is really engaging and all levels, so that we can make sure that we have. 393 00:53:51.540 --> 00:54:05.820 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: The capacity and scale that these actions need to be happening so i'm super excited to be part of this team and in advance feel a real and just solutions so that's some of the work that we've been doing and. 394 00:54:07.500 --> 00:54:15.840 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: We have also have this initiative that's called like open cup and the idea is to actually expand the civic space at the UN triple C level. 395 00:54:16.290 --> 00:54:35.130 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And what that does you know slaying to bring in more legitimacy more robustness of the actions and then transparency to the process, which is a corner store cornerstone actually of the Paris Agreement, so this is all like reinforcing and bringing. 396 00:54:36.180 --> 00:54:44.520 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: You know I think like it's unlocking you know, like the never ending capacity that we have in our society, and you know there's like a lot of thought to. 397 00:54:45.540 --> 00:55:03.180 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Speaking about whole of society approach, so I think like this is the way that we do it like we involve people in there is no way to get there, without it, and I have recently started to play around, and you know, like when. 398 00:55:04.410 --> 00:55:08.040 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: The strain in the avenues say like you know, like there's like. 399 00:55:08.730 --> 00:55:25.830 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: 10 million like possibilities, but there's only one that we can win the only one that we can win is we involve people so i'm super excited to be working in this and, like bringing voices into the process um so yeah like that's our work at uci. 400 00:55:26.190 --> 00:55:35.940 Mark Reynolds: Nice that's great and now you're also a scientist and working on your PhD in the area of the cryosphere and could you just explain to people what that is and how that relates to our overall work. 401 00:55:36.330 --> 00:55:46.380 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: yeah absolutely so um I am a scientist i'm an environmental scientist so that means I get to do everything and. 402 00:55:47.910 --> 00:55:51.690 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: When we are very interested in all like the pieces of the. 403 00:55:52.650 --> 00:56:02.580 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Climate and earth system, so what I do is focus on atmospheric chemistry in the Christ, the cryosphere is everything that's frozen so. 404 00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:13.020 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: That is like glaciers, that is ice caps that is even like the snow that is like seasonal that like that's no cover. 405 00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:30.840 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: As part of the cryosphere so what I study is like, how are the pollutants, you know, like the bulletins that we mean here through like the different sources affect the reflectivity of the snow so. 406 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:34.140 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: When you have this know. 407 00:56:35.340 --> 00:56:47.910 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: We know that is way, so when you have a buddy you know that is white means that it is reflecting that and some of this can be you know, taking into account like if it's a hug day and then. 408 00:56:48.270 --> 00:57:03.240 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: It is you're wearing like a black shirt you would like, it will be harder right so um I study, aerosols and those are lighting very small particles like even smaller than you know, like a string of your hair. 409 00:57:03.690 --> 00:57:17.190 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And this gets transported over long distances and when they deposited into snow because there's only so wind means that they dampen that whiteness and so that creates. 410 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:31.500 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: A way that the surface can absorb more heat so accelerates melting, but the question is like by how much, and like what is the contribution to like snow melt. 411 00:57:32.970 --> 00:57:43.530 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So the reason why I decided to study this is because we need every little bit of solution to really get to you know. 412 00:57:44.430 --> 00:57:52.440 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: mitigating climate change and the cryosphere he's our regulator of the you know, like over all our climate and weather, etc. 413 00:57:52.860 --> 00:58:12.750 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So a lot of people ask me like oh like what is like a trump go girl like doing here in the cryosphere and for me like it begins in Nice, and then it ends in water so that means you know, like sea level rise, that means you know some like losing some of like our beloved coast. 414 00:58:13.980 --> 00:58:28.830 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: sea level rise and innovation inland flooding of our Community so it's important for me to be like in ground series like how are we going to solve this and the aerosols, that I study that I studied suit. 415 00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:39.810 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: So that is black carbon, which is like the formal term is that short live claimant falutin so that means that. 416 00:58:40.830 --> 00:58:54.570 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: it's unnecessary lifetime is very short it's a couple of days, so that mean it's kind of like a low hanging fruit and if we weren't able to implement mitigation strategies that are effective. 417 00:58:55.020 --> 00:59:11.100 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: We could solve some of the issues very quickly actually addressing you know, like short climate pollutants surely of climate polluting sorry can reduce up to like Point five degrees. 418 00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:28.050 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: By 2015, so it is a significant source to be addressing and I think that in climate change, we need all cards so that's how it relates like it it connects to like our urgency and where do we need to be. 419 00:59:29.310 --> 00:59:37.380 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Giving like action and and priorities, you know, like just like as part of our whole portfolio of solutions to climate change. 420 00:59:38.490 --> 00:59:38.700 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Oh. 421 00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:44.340 Mark Reynolds: Okay, great looks like we've got time to to get a few questions from the field, so let me just check. 422 00:59:44.640 --> 00:59:53.340 Mark Reynolds: The planner and see I mean so people there's a lot of things you could ask you could ask her about the COP meeting you could ask her about CCI you could ask her about the cryosphere you could ask her about Greenland probably. 423 00:59:55.320 --> 01:00:10.320 Flannery Winchester, Communications Director: yeah so one one question, since you were just talking about the cryosphere i'll start with this one this person is pointing out that you grew up in Puerto Rico very warm now your work is on these frozen areas, so how did you make that connection and get interested in that piece of it. 424 01:00:10.380 --> 01:00:26.400 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: yeah yeah I think that um, as I say, laying it begins in ice and answering waters, so is ground zero, so I think we need to really be working and regulating our you know kind of like our. 425 01:00:28.350 --> 01:00:39.330 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Like earth AC, and so we need to be working here and trying to bring that into fruition, because if we work at the. 426 01:00:40.050 --> 01:00:47.010 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: You know, like upstream enough, we can like save you know, like we're talking about communities right so we're talking about. 427 01:00:47.820 --> 01:01:00.030 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: we're talking about like saving lives, so if we implement solutions like upstream enough and we're able to save lives down the line, so, for me, was very important not to only talk about. 428 01:01:01.080 --> 01:01:11.550 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Adaptation you know because we don't emit so much, but also how can I bring value into protecting small islands everywhere. 429 01:01:12.540 --> 01:01:21.180 Mark Reynolds: Let me, let me ask a follow up i'll turn it back to you, so you had mentioned that there are some ways to mitigate black carbon and short term pollutants and what are some of those. 430 01:01:21.600 --> 01:01:32.670 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Some of those you know, are in fact Lee removing so it can be in several ways of these are filters through like I the source. 431 01:01:33.660 --> 01:01:48.120 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And then it can be like you, seeing different kinds of fossil like different kinds of fields, instead of fossil fuels so like if we move to like renewables right like that that will take care of it. 432 01:01:49.200 --> 01:02:05.910 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And then, like the way that we transfer right like transforming our transport system, whether it's like Mary TIM or cars, all of this because food comes from incomplete combustion, so this will actually generate you know. 433 01:02:07.020 --> 01:02:11.340 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: A change if we address like our you know, like kind of. 434 01:02:12.570 --> 01:02:26.430 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Like our energy production and then like transportation and then like indirectly as well if we mitigate right like if we mitigate then because because I work in suit and then also. 435 01:02:26.820 --> 01:02:40.290 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: On dust, so the the certification, you know, like the expansion of the certification in areas because of like the global warming and climate impacts that actually creates more influx of dust into. 436 01:02:40.620 --> 01:02:55.590 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: The cryosphere so there's like a couple of ways, you know, like so by like the feedback so by addressing climate change, we can reduce the certification, which will be great and then also transforming the way that we. 437 01:02:57.180 --> 01:03:02.250 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: You know everything all of our system, energy, transport, etc right. 438 01:03:02.520 --> 01:03:04.650 Mark Reynolds: Let me what what what's else on your end. 439 01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:19.860 Flannery Winchester, Communications Director: Alright, this i'll give you this as sort of a dual question so one is what was your favorite part of top 26 and then, what do you think needs to happen to make cup 27 more productive. 440 01:03:20.610 --> 01:03:35.640 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: yeah so um I think my favorite part of cup 20 things will have to be at the end of 26 there is there was something called that people's plenary. 441 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:50.280 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: And that plenary was from civil society so em everywhere, like from like the facilitators we turned in normally UN people were from civil society and they. 442 01:03:52.260 --> 01:04:04.050 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: They created like this atmosphere, you know, like just bringing up about you know what are the things that are missing, and it was so powerful to be in the presence of you know, like indigenous leaders. 443 01:04:04.410 --> 01:04:11.880 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Civil society everywhere that are calling on to more ambition and then there was um you know. 444 01:04:13.230 --> 01:04:14.880 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: A walk through. 445 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:36.390 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Through like the venue holding this red textiles kind of like symbolizing or not kind of like symbolizing our red lines and the things that shouldn't be cross so that we are actually acting to protect the people everywhere in the face of climate change. 446 01:04:38.700 --> 01:04:40.110 Mark Reynolds: That we do have time for one more flattering. 447 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:53.010 Flannery Winchester, Communications Director: Okay, great um so you are also the regional coordinator for Latin America for citizens climate lobby, so our most uploaded question this person is asking. 448 01:04:53.970 --> 01:05:02.640 Flannery Winchester, Communications Director: What are some of the challenges that you're seeing in other countries when it comes to citizens being able to lobby their governments, and how are people overcoming those challenges. 449 01:05:03.150 --> 01:05:12.360 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: yeah that is very important question, because in Latin America, we see that you know. 450 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:29.490 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Some of the stats then that we see our that people is like the most dangerous actually area to be an activist so um there are like a lot of persecution so it's actually pretty hard for. 451 01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:42.450 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Our like Members or just like normal citizens to lobby their government, because sometimes there is like prosecution, etc, and the way that people are working in that is. 452 01:05:43.260 --> 01:05:56.280 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Sometimes it's like making coalition's and then try to working issues that are inching into like more radical solutions and then also. 453 01:05:57.420 --> 01:06:14.100 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Passing you know, like passing long recently there was an agreement that pause and it's like the only one of its kind in the world that is called the esca Sue agreement and this actually protects the rights of like environmental defenders. 454 01:06:15.150 --> 01:06:25.890 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: against it so it's like the only continent rain like that has worked or region that has work on something like this, and it was gratifying and. 455 01:06:26.550 --> 01:06:42.690 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: yeah it's like trying to so countries are like kind of identifying where they are lacking, and then trying to establish what is the framework to actually protect those that are trying to protect the environment because protecting the environment shouldn't be like a. 456 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:47.550 Isatis Cintrón Rodríguez, Citizens’ Climate International: Like a death threat or a death sentence so yeah. 457 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:48.420 well. 458 01:06:49.680 --> 01:07:00.810 Mark Reynolds: cool well it's not to thank you for your courageous work and for all you're doing, and thank you so much for being here and I hope you can stick around for the next 15 or so minutes, as we do the rest of the call Thank you. 459 01:07:02.160 --> 01:07:12.690 Mark Reynolds: Alright, so you notice that Dr Danny Richter has joined us who's going to be giving us a legislative update about where we are things and spoiler alert I think it's going to go till January, but let's let's hear from Danny and self. 460 01:07:14.040 --> 01:07:26.520 Danny Richter: Thanks mark cheese steal my thunder well Hello everybody, welcome to the call I do want to provide a brief summary of where things stand, as we see it, at least in the process of budget reconciliation. 461 01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:34.980 Danny Richter: And the bottom line is that a carbon price is still a possibility for inclusion in the final reconciliation package. 462 01:07:35.550 --> 01:07:52.860 Danny Richter: I would describe its media footprint as still being anemic but that's probably still a good thing, as I mentioned in the past that being said, there have been some quotes in the media that I want to highlight and I want to start with a quote from Senator hickenlooper. 463 01:07:53.880 --> 01:08:00.810 Danny Richter: The former governor was here's the quote the former governor also doubled down on a support for a carbon tax. 464 01:08:01.170 --> 01:08:06.930 Danny Richter: part of a broader shift and his environmental approach expects a fee on methane emissions is. 465 01:08:07.290 --> 01:08:13.260 Danny Richter: unlikely to be included at this point and quote but putting a price on carbon pollution would be better in the bill. 466 01:08:13.650 --> 01:08:26.430 Danny Richter: And he gives the big picture, as this 50 years from now we're going to be looking back and this moment I think has the potential to be the point at which we say, this was the beginning of the great transition. 467 01:08:27.630 --> 01:08:39.540 Danny Richter: There was also a roll call article last weekend which Senator coons was quoted as saying i'm still optimistic that we will add a polluter fee to the bill back better legislation here in the Senate. 468 01:08:40.260 --> 01:08:47.220 Danny Richter: And I just want to note that build back better and budget reconciliation are two names for the same thing it's the same bill. 469 01:08:47.850 --> 01:08:55.830 Danny Richter: That roll call article also had a helpful quote from Senator carper from his purchase of the chairman of the environment and public works committee. 470 01:08:56.460 --> 01:09:03.810 Danny Richter: Which all know actually has jurisdiction over the methods fee, and this is how he described the process we are inside the 10 yard line. 471 01:09:04.380 --> 01:09:14.130 Danny Richter: And he was hopeful of reaching the end zone and in the article this quote was actually in the context of talks related to the methane fee and build back better generally. 472 01:09:14.610 --> 01:09:20.610 Danny Richter: And here's another quote from carper, the question is, are we going to put a price on carbon and that's something I support. 473 01:09:21.420 --> 01:09:29.550 Danny Richter: Finally, and perhaps most interestingly, on Monday political politico had a quote from representative tonka in the House. 474 01:09:30.090 --> 01:09:36.810 Danny Richter: saying I think some of the revenue stuff may require that carbon pricing come into the knicks. 475 01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:47.250 Danny Richter: And I found that particularly encouraging because this is on the House side and represent tonka has been very important for democratic leadership has been at the Center of some of the climate efforts. 476 01:09:48.330 --> 01:09:58.350 Danny Richter: And I would I would not describe Center tonka at least from our perspective is having been especially enthusiastic about a carbon price so for him. 477 01:09:58.740 --> 01:10:06.210 Danny Richter: His close engagement with leadership to be saying this, I, I think that that's encouraging and so all of this is great. 478 01:10:06.810 --> 01:10:19.260 Danny Richter: In terms of timing and what mark said at the beginning of this call another very important thing that is going on right now is the Senate parliamentarian is doing her review of the major portions of bill text. 479 01:10:19.830 --> 01:10:23.700 Danny Richter: It is our understanding that the parliamentarian review of the Finance Committee. 480 01:10:24.240 --> 01:10:40.710 Danny Richter: tech submission, which is where I carbon price would come from if it is going to be included, was the start this past Wednesday, and we are expecting to Dhaka take a debt and the other thing that we're looking out for is Republicans will then have their their opportunity to. 481 01:10:41.970 --> 01:10:53.490 Danny Richter: place objections to the final text, and then the parliamentarian will have to rule on those objections and so that does just with all this process, and bearing in mind that. 482 01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:59.970 Danny Richter: The build back better build this budget reconciliation bill it's not all about climate there are a lot of other. 483 01:11:00.570 --> 01:11:07.350 Danny Richter: priorities that democrats are pushing that a lot of people care a lot about all those have to be ruled on as well. 484 01:11:07.890 --> 01:11:16.740 Danny Richter: Really we're looking at January I think for for wrapping up this process so right now we're still thinking January is the most likely time for a resolution, so in summary. 485 01:11:17.460 --> 01:11:21.840 Danny Richter: We are still in this the carbon price is still in this, and nothing fee is still in this. 486 01:11:22.350 --> 01:11:29.850 Danny Richter: senators, who are connected to the action are saying a carbon price and Ms and methane fee are still part of the mix. 487 01:11:30.330 --> 01:11:42.870 Danny Richter: And we're not giving up on this reconciliation opportunity until we hear otherwise, and yes January is probably the time for a resolution so let's continue to hold on tight and that's the update. 488 01:11:43.230 --> 01:11:53.280 Mark Reynolds: Okay cool um flannery i'm going to ask you if there's a couple of questions that we want to take, but Danny one thing about January isn't there some hard deadline that kind of forces their hand in January anyway. 489 01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:03.540 Danny Richter: um well we've had a couple of deadlines come and so we've had funding the government and we had a short term postponement to that. 490 01:12:04.170 --> 01:12:16.320 Danny Richter: we've had the debt ceiling and just this past week there was a unique one time agreement to to require only 50 votes so there were republican votes. 491 01:12:16.770 --> 01:12:27.990 Danny Richter: To allow the votes, but it's expected that only democrats will be voting to to extend the debt ceiling and so that that it's expected to be pushed back until. 492 01:12:28.950 --> 01:12:44.730 Danny Richter: Until the end but yes, I mean both of those things are kind of end of January and that's the expectation that all this will have to be wrapped up before Democrats find them in a position of pushing that back again okay. 493 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:45.270 Okay. 494 01:12:46.290 --> 01:12:49.170 Mark Reynolds: flannery there are there are a couple of things out there that. 495 01:12:49.890 --> 01:13:00.930 Flannery Winchester, Communications Director: Yes, so one you mentioned the parliamentarian Danny is evaluating things can you explain what's what's the basis for the parliamentarians rulings on these things. 496 01:13:02.250 --> 01:13:02.670 Danny Richter: Yes. 497 01:13:03.030 --> 01:13:10.260 Danny Richter: The Senate is subject to the bird rule, and so the Senate parliamentarian is is in charge of. 498 01:13:10.860 --> 01:13:27.630 Danny Richter: making sure that all of the provisions, all of the texts that are in reconciliation are in compliance with the bird rule named after Senator Byrd be why RD and the purpose of the bird rule is to because budget reconciliation allows. 499 01:13:27.990 --> 01:13:33.210 Danny Richter: For only 50 votes it's very tempting, and so the purpose of the bird role is to limit. 500 01:13:34.320 --> 01:13:39.630 Danny Richter: limit what can be what can be passed within that opportunity so it's not just a. 501 01:13:40.500 --> 01:13:53.430 Danny Richter: Complete you there's only so much you can do, and so the Senate parliamentarian her job is to make sure that the Senate is following its own rules and you may have heard different terms you know, this is the bird bath. 502 01:13:54.450 --> 01:14:03.810 Danny Richter: This is a scrubbing of the text, and so the idea here is that you're scrubbing away or wiping away cleaning away all the text. 503 01:14:04.080 --> 01:14:15.270 Danny Richter: That is not germane not relevant, or is not in compliance with the rules, but the Senate has set for itself over the years, so that's that's what the Senate parliamentarians trying to do here. 504 01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:18.210 Mark Reynolds: Well plenary, we do have time for one more. 505 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:36.810 Flannery Winchester, Communications Director: Okay um Oh, this is, this is one that just popped in i'm going to ask us what, what do you think will happen to the price on carbon if it's past if and when Republicans are back in the White House or back in control of some chambers of commerce. 506 01:14:38.370 --> 01:14:39.030 Danny Richter: If we win. 507 01:14:40.290 --> 01:14:54.000 Danny Richter: And there's a price on carbon, I think that it will, it will be impossible for and if there's a price on carbon with a substantial dividends, which is my mistake that's what's been discussed, then. 508 01:14:55.080 --> 01:15:04.560 Danny Richter: Even if Republicans take both the House in the Senate it in the midterms President Biden will still have the Presidency, and he will still have veto power. 509 01:15:05.040 --> 01:15:21.000 Danny Richter: And so I don't see President Biden allowing something that is going to be the most important climate reduction tool in this bill I don't see him weakening that I don't see him getting rid of that, and so I think that. 510 01:15:22.080 --> 01:15:30.780 Danny Richter: And, and some of the things that Republicans could do is they could not fund some of the some of the other priorities and so some of these. 511 01:15:31.230 --> 01:15:41.670 Danny Richter: priorities you need you still need are appropriate for them, even if they're if they're past but that's not the case for carbon prices it's collecting revenue and it's it's the it's the price itself. 512 01:15:42.360 --> 01:15:51.240 Danny Richter: That that stick, which creates the emissions reduction, so it really works in a very different way, which is very complimentary to a lot of the other priorities. 513 01:15:51.690 --> 01:16:00.360 Danny Richter: And so, if something if we win in the next couple of months here I don't I see that being in place for the next three years, and because there is a dividend. 514 01:16:00.900 --> 01:16:12.540 Danny Richter: I see in that time people getting used to the the dividend, and I see it, being very, very difficult for any future Congress to to reduce that. 515 01:16:13.350 --> 01:16:20.250 Danny Richter: Or to take that away and then, when you add on top of that what the international community is doing the fact that they're. 516 01:16:20.730 --> 01:16:33.120 Danny Richter: 34 out of 36 developed economies already have a carbon price and that we would not be able to participate in get a pass on carbon border adjustment mechanisms, if we don't have a domestic carbon price. 517 01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:47.340 Danny Richter: I think it's a lock, and I think that it was it would be extremely difficult for a future Congress to weaken or remove the major provisions of carbon price that make it do what we wanted to do right. 518 01:16:47.430 --> 01:16:52.380 Mark Reynolds: Then Thank you so much planning again, thank you for monitoring the questions on bundled speakers really appreciate that. 519 01:16:53.310 --> 01:17:01.710 Mark Reynolds: Okay let's talk about what we're doing this month, so the primary action really the first two actions are tied together the first is to set up a way to kind of. 520 01:17:02.010 --> 01:17:08.580 Mark Reynolds: celebrate what got accomplished this year and then plan next year, but we're recommending you do it in a particular way you know. 521 01:17:09.810 --> 01:17:17.760 Mark Reynolds: we'd like you to find some way to get together with your chapter, whether that's zoom or if there's somehow you can do a conveniently in person. 522 01:17:18.030 --> 01:17:24.690 Mark Reynolds: And we'd like you to talk about this year in terms of what did get accomplished what you accomplished eventually individually what your chapter accomplished. 523 01:17:25.080 --> 01:17:36.630 Mark Reynolds: What CCL accomplished what the broader climate movement did so that we can build on next year, based on accomplishment not just another year we don't want to just do another year let's do something remarkable again. 524 01:17:36.990 --> 01:17:42.600 Mark Reynolds: And so let's start by talking about expressing and celebrating everything that got done this year. 525 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:50.850 Mark Reynolds: But then the second part of it is, we would like you to kind of ground yourself and CCL values in how you plan, the year so if you look at our core seven values. 526 01:17:51.060 --> 01:18:00.060 Mark Reynolds: How can you use those to inform how you plan for the coming year, so those two, I believe, are very much tied together, and I hope that you are able to take some. 527 01:18:00.360 --> 01:18:16.680 Mark Reynolds: Time to just not have another year happen, but see if we can complete this year powerfully and move ourselves very effectively into next year, the third action is a social media action which is just share why you work with CCL and the last one is a communication exercise on. 528 01:18:18.060 --> 01:18:24.240 Mark Reynolds: practicing how you could ask people to support seat to financially, I mean there's some people there, they don't want to give any time but they could donate. 529 01:18:24.570 --> 01:18:30.360 Mark Reynolds: And so that's what we're doing this month and I certainly hope that as many of you as can participate in that as possible. 530 01:18:30.810 --> 01:18:39.540 Mark Reynolds: So you know what we've mostly been focusing on in the organization in the last several months is the reconciliation process so most of you are familiar with the. 531 01:18:40.230 --> 01:18:47.580 Mark Reynolds: hundred and 60,000 plus contacts to the Senate, the House and the President Biden the over 3 million texts that have gone out the. 532 01:18:47.910 --> 01:18:54.780 Mark Reynolds: Over 300,000 phone calls that have gone to CCL supporters, but in the meantime you've also been making some really interesting things happen. 533 01:18:55.140 --> 01:19:07.860 Mark Reynolds: So, for instance, last month, we hosted the November conference, just for the live event not we don't have the numbers on the recording it there were 2275 people who attend that and that included 14 countries so. 534 01:19:08.430 --> 01:19:17.040 Mark Reynolds: That was a big deal, and there are 308 meeting minutes in already I know there's still some meetings happening so they'll be some more meeting minutes coming in. 535 01:19:17.400 --> 01:19:27.630 Mark Reynolds: But our intelligence on the hill said that AIDS had never been more exhausted, and they just didn't think we would get many meetings, because everybody is so fried by coben's so fried by reconciliation. 536 01:19:28.470 --> 01:19:34.710 Mark Reynolds: That we would just went get them any means, but you do you know it's CCL this is how we roll so 308 meetings in already. 537 01:19:36.180 --> 01:19:50.610 Mark Reynolds: Last year we got you got 626 op eds published and we did that we said, nobody will probably ever do that again, I mean that's just that's such a huge number there's diminished space in the newspapers anymore. 538 01:19:51.240 --> 01:19:56.430 Mark Reynolds: there's not as much room, as there was there's some papers that don't publish it all there's some papers that only publish. 539 01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:02.070 Mark Reynolds: once a week, instead of every week my own paper only pebbles just letters to the editors. 540 01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:13.560 Mark Reynolds: Three times a week so there's not as much space well, in spite of that, this year, so far, the year today there are have been 782 op eds published by you, that is just. 541 01:20:13.890 --> 01:20:24.210 Mark Reynolds: A newspaper giving you a lot of room to make our case and that's phenomenal we still got a month ago, but we've shattered through last year's record and, in addition to that an additional 2612. 542 01:20:24.750 --> 01:20:31.470 Mark Reynolds: letters to the editor which I also find remarkable given there's just not as much space as there used to be to compete there for. 543 01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:38.490 Mark Reynolds: On the social media side our Twitter team has really turned into a force to be reckoned with. 544 01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:45.840 Mark Reynolds: You know I know that for a lot of us it's frustrating when we see things in the media that are just not accurate or not characterized in the correct way. 545 01:20:46.230 --> 01:20:56.070 Mark Reynolds: And our Twitter team has gotten really good at correcting the record and they're really good at coordinating so they're not all just making the same case, they will all be presenting different pieces of evidence to the same reporter. 546 01:20:56.370 --> 01:21:04.710 Mark Reynolds: or writer, and so, both on the social media team and the traditional media functioning in a really, really strong way. 547 01:21:05.670 --> 01:21:21.480 Mark Reynolds: we've got 979 endorsements so far this year, so thank you, but all of you who've been doing outreach to influencers in your Community were all closing in on 1000 at this point there's also another interesting thing that I noticed in the data this this this month. 548 01:21:23.250 --> 01:21:34.320 Mark Reynolds: Some of you have figured out how to crack the code on tabling in the first half of this year there were 69 tabling events so 69 for the entire first months of the year. 549 01:21:34.740 --> 01:21:46.320 Mark Reynolds: Right now years date we are 376 tabling events so that means, some of you have figured out how to get out in front of people in a time when it's been challenging and for those of you who crack the code. 550 01:21:46.590 --> 01:21:54.450 Mark Reynolds: we're looking to hear from you, because all of us want to be getting getting out there, reaching out to people and expanding our membership okay. 551 01:21:55.320 --> 01:21:59.370 Mark Reynolds: So at the November conference, one of the things we talked about was. 552 01:22:00.240 --> 01:22:12.750 Mark Reynolds: A process for evaluating additional solutions, we would add, and I just want to make sure that we all understand that this is a process of addition not subtraction we're not talking about abandoning something we're talking about adding something. 553 01:22:13.140 --> 01:22:20.040 Mark Reynolds: One of the things we've proven absolutely clearly over the last couple of years is is that we stay focused on carbon pricing. 554 01:22:20.310 --> 01:22:28.920 Mark Reynolds: while at the same time getting good bills passed in our secondary asks that help the climate, so we can stay focused, but we can take moron. 555 01:22:29.160 --> 01:22:35.760 Mark Reynolds: So we decided we can add priorities so let's just go on to the assumption there is there is not a carbon price if there is a carbon price. 556 01:22:36.150 --> 01:22:42.990 Mark Reynolds: we're going to be working really hard next year to improve it to increase it to defend it to tell the American people why this is so good for them. 557 01:22:43.740 --> 01:22:56.010 Mark Reynolds: If there's not a price then we're going to go out and get a price, but in addition to that, we found that we have the maturity, we have the strength we're a complex enough organization to be focused, but at the same time, adding solution is. 558 01:22:57.420 --> 01:23:06.300 Mark Reynolds: One of the things that I also let the membership know that in January of this year on January 20 our President, Madam pair will become the new executive director. 559 01:23:06.630 --> 01:23:14.130 Mark Reynolds: And I will join the citizens climate lobby board i'm very excited about that opportunity and looking for things I can do there. 560 01:23:14.430 --> 01:23:26.460 Mark Reynolds: I think, as a board member of CCL you know any nonprofit a lot of the work is about fundraising, and this will free up a lot of my time to spend more money reaching out to donors and meeting with foundations, etc. 561 01:23:27.150 --> 01:23:45.690 Mark Reynolds: As a volunteer i'm just spending more time with CCI international because, as we mentioned, and what is softer said is there's 141 chapters there's we're in 76 countries, we have to staff and for contractors i'm hoping that I can help Jones team build that out a little bit. 562 01:23:47.730 --> 01:23:51.240 Mark Reynolds: In terms of you know, so that we can be as strong as we possibly can around the world. 563 01:23:52.230 --> 01:24:01.140 Mark Reynolds: I think some of you are familiar with a quote from Dr Charles dubois who said, the important thing is this to be able, at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we. 564 01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:07.350 Mark Reynolds: could become I have never met someone more like that the mountain para i've been she's has just. 565 01:24:07.830 --> 01:24:18.180 Mark Reynolds: From the ministry started working here is just continued to push yourself and evolve yourself to be a match for the challenge and i'm really excited to see what she can do is our new executive director. 566 01:24:18.570 --> 01:24:27.930 Mark Reynolds: The other thing that i'm really excited about this transition is you know when I started CCL I was the boss on day one i've only ever been tossed I never experienced anything else. 567 01:24:28.230 --> 01:24:35.040 Mark Reynolds: i've never been a chapter leader i've never been a volunteer i've always just been in charge and i'm excited that next year. 568 01:24:35.340 --> 01:24:45.240 Mark Reynolds: In addition to being on the CCL board i'll be able to call myself a CCL volunteer I don't think there's a better title, you could have them think of CCL volunteer and i'm excited for that alright everybody big year. 569 01:24:46.350 --> 01:24:57.600 Mark Reynolds: Great job with all the work you're doing let's keep pushing you know I know we've been pushing and pushing and pushing we can keep pushing until January let's keep our fingers crossed hopefully we'll get this in there we'll see y'all soon thanks everybody.